Safari crasht regelmatig.

Wanneer ik naar de site van 2BE of VT4 ga, dan blijft safari regelmatig hangen en na een tijdje crasht hij gewoon.

Heeft iemand dit zelfde probleem en weet misschien de oplossing?

Kan zijn door de grote hoeveelheid aan Flash toestanden op die websites. Flash werkt nog steeds niet zo goed in Safari vind ik. Heb je hetzelfde probleem in Firefox?

Bij mij doen ze het prima hoor. 3.1.1.

Bij mij ook ook 3.1.1

[quote:44f4ff2c54="CedricH"]Kan zijn door de grote hoeveelheid aan Flash toestanden op die websites. Flash werkt nog steeds niet zo goed in Safari vind ik. Heb je hetzelfde probleem in Firefox?[/quote:44f4ff2c54]

in firefox werken ze goed, maar ik gebruik altijd safari.

@The Jm, iDarwin, soms werken ze ook goed bij mij, en als ik dan even later terug kijk werkt het niet meer

[quote:3894bd6246="W0utR"][quote:3894bd6246="CedricH"]Kan zijn door de grote hoeveelheid aan Flash toestanden op die websites. Flash werkt nog steeds niet zo goed in Safari vind ik. Heb je hetzelfde probleem in Firefox?[/quote:3894bd6246]

in firefox werken ze goed, maar ik gebruik altijd safari.[/quote:3894bd6246]
Gewoon firefox gebruiken, voor veel dingen is FF beter (voorheen kon je uitzendinggemist alleen via FF bekijken en zo meer)

[quote:9948101a71="1984"][quote:9948101a71="W0utR"][quote:9948101a71="CedricH"]Kan zijn door de grote hoeveelheid aan Flash toestanden op die websites. Flash werkt nog steeds niet zo goed in Safari vind ik. Heb je hetzelfde probleem in Firefox?[/quote:9948101a71]

in firefox werken ze goed, maar ik gebruik altijd safari.[/quote:9948101a71]
Gewoon firefox gebruiken, voor veel dingen is FF beter (voorheen kon je uitzendinggemist alleen via FF bekijken en zo meer)[/quote:9948101a71]

En voor veel dingen is Safari beter: kleurprofielen, snelheid en goede ondersteuning van de regels voor HTML bijvoorbeeld. Dat uitzendinggemist het eerst niet deed in Safari en wel in Firefox, is niet omdat Firefox zoveel beter is maar des te meer hoe slecht de site van uitzendinggemist schijnbaar gecodeerd was. Don’t get me wrong, heb ook heel lang Firefox gebruikt, maar moet toegeven dat [i:9948101a71]ik[/i:9948101a71] Safari toch fijner vind.

Maar goed, zelfde probleem jammergenoeg (regelmatig) hier. Ik zal er eens op letten of het inderdaad Flash is, zou jammer zijn.

Ik zeg kapot geheugen. Zelf iets toegevoegd?

[quote:1a67bd9c24="1984"][quote:1a67bd9c24="W0utR"][quote:1a67bd9c24="CedricH"]Kan zijn door de grote hoeveelheid aan Flash toestanden op die websites. Flash werkt nog steeds niet zo goed in Safari vind ik. Heb je hetzelfde probleem in Firefox?[/quote:1a67bd9c24]

in firefox werken ze goed, maar ik gebruik altijd safari.[/quote:1a67bd9c24]
Gewoon firefox gebruiken, voor veel dingen is FF beter (voorheen kon je uitzendinggemist alleen via FF bekijken en zo meer)[/quote:1a67bd9c24]

Ow god, een FF-Evangelist.

@Ts, ligt het probleem nu bij flash of gebeurt het ook bij andere websites.
Met geheugen zou ik ook de symptoom verwachten: alle applicaties crashen. Maar het zou het wel kunnen zijn.

[quote:22448180c7="gijsraggers"]Ik zeg kapot geheugen. Zelf iets toegevoegd?[/quote:22448180c7] ik heb niks toegevoegd.

Maar dan zou safari toch ook bij andere websites moeten crashen?

Ik denk ook dat het komt omdat er op die sites redelijk veel flash applicaties gebruikt worden

[quote:45bf2e0c43="carpebios"]Ow god, een FF-Evangelist.[/quote:45bf2e0c43] NEE, een noodgedwongen Firefox gebruiker omdat Safari eenmaal niet alles opent naar tevredenheid (50/50) :satisfied:

Laat Crash Reporter (hulpprogramma Console->Log Bestanden) nog iets bijzonders zien?

[quote:94fcb8bbea="Esquare"]Laat Crash Reporter (hulpprogramma Console->Log Bestanden) nog iets bijzonders zien?[/quote:94fcb8bbea]

dit is wat ik vondt bij het crash report van safari

[quote:94fcb8bbea]Process: Safari [161]
Path: /Applications/Safari.app/Contents/MacOS/Safari
Identifier: com.apple.Safari
Version: 3.1.1 (5525.18)
Build Info: WebBrowser-55251800~2
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [108]

Date/Time: 2008-05-12 20:14:17.581 +0200
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5.2 (9C7010)
Report Version: 6

Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x000000007d045010
Crashed Thread: 0

Thread 0 Crashed:
0 …romedia.Flash Player.plugin 0x16b9cf06 memcopy_mmx + 532286
1 …romedia.Flash Player.plugin 0x16b9aecc memcopy_mmx + 524036
2 …romedia.Flash Player.plugin 0x169504b0 0x16700000 + 2426032
3 …romedia.Flash Player.plugin 0x16ab7cc0 Flash_EnforceLocalSecurity + 63128
4 …romedia.Flash Player.plugin 0x16ab049e Flash_EnforceLocalSecurity + 32374
5 …romedia.Flash Player.plugin 0x16aa8669 Flash_EnforceLocalSecurity + 65
6 com.apple.WebKit 0x90026145 -[WebBaseNetscapePluginView(Internal) _destroyPlugin] + 37
7 com.apple.WebKit 0x900260c2 -[WebBaseNetscapePluginView stop] + 322
8 com.apple.WebKit 0x9001ee45 -[WebBaseNetscapePluginView viewWillMoveToSuperview:] + 53
9 com.apple.AppKit 0x91b8f37b -[NSView _setSuperview:] + 279
10 com.apple.AppKit 0x91b990a9 -[NSView removeFromSuperview] + 338
11 com.apple.WebCore 0x92e1c072 WebCore::safeRemoveFromSuperview(NSView*) + 178
12 com.apple.WebCore 0x92e1bf70 WebCore::Widget::removeFromSuperview() + 208
13 com.apple.WebCore 0x92e18d4d WebCore::RenderWidget::destroy() + 125
14 com.apple.WebCore 0x92d4c17f WebCore::Node::detach() + 47
15 com.apple.WebCore 0x92d4c07b WebCore::ContainerNode::detach() + 43
16 com.apple.WebCore 0x92d4c07b WebCore::ContainerNode::detach() + 43
17 com.apple.WebCore 0x92d4c07b WebCore::ContainerNode::detach() + 43
18 com.apple.WebCore 0x92d4c07b WebCore::ContainerNode::detach() + 43
19 com.apple.WebCore 0x92d4c07b WebCore::ContainerNode::detach() + 43
20 com.apple.WebCore 0x92d4c07b WebCore::ContainerNode::detach() + 43
21 com.apple.WebCore 0x92d4c07b WebCore::ContainerNode::detach() + 43
22 com.apple.WebCore 0x92d4bfaa WebCore::Document::detach() + 186
23 com.apple.WebCore 0x92ceeca8 WebCore::Frame::setView(WebCore::FrameView*) + 184
24 com.apple.WebCore 0x92ceeb53 -[WebCoreFrameBridge createFrameViewWithNSView:marginWidth:marginHeight:] + 51
25 com.apple.WebKit 0x90008963 WebFrameLoaderClient::transitionToCommittedForNewPage() + 339
26 com.apple.WebCore 0x92cee3c6 WebCore::FrameLoader::transitionToCommitted(WTF::PassRefPtr<WebCore::CachedPage>) + 614
27 com.apple.WebCore 0x92ceda47 WebCore::FrameLoader::commitProvisionalLoad(WTF::PassRefPtr<WebCore::CachedPage>) + 119
28 com.apple.WebCore 0x92ced975 WebCore::DocumentLoader::commitIfReady() + 85
29 com.apple.WebCore 0x92d487c3 WebCore::DocumentLoader::commitLoad(char const*, int) + 35
30 com.apple.WebCore 0x92d48385 WebCore::ResourceLoader::didReceiveData(char const*, int, long long, bool) + 69
31 com.apple.WebCore 0x92d482f7 WebCore::MainResourceLoader::didReceiveData(char const*, int, long long, bool) + 71
32 com.apple.WebCore 0x92d482a8 WebCore::ResourceLoader::didReceiveData(WebCore::ResourceHandle*, char const*, int, int) + 56
33 com.apple.Foundation 0x9514d3b7 -[NSURLConnection(NSURLConnectionReallyInternal) sendDidReceiveData:originalLength:] + 119
34 com.apple.Foundation 0x9514d31e _NSURLConnectionDidReceiveData + 94
35 com.apple.CFNetwork 0x95f5a0af sendDidReceiveDataCallback + 518
36 com.apple.CFNetwork 0x95f5776d _CFURLConnectionSendCallbacks + 1559
37 com.apple.CFNetwork 0x95f570d9 muxerSourcePerform + 283
38 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x944f962e CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 3166
39 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x944f9d18 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
40 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x954f86a0 RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 283
41 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x954f84b9 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 374
42 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x954f832d BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInMode + 106
43 com.apple.AppKit 0x91baf7d9 _DPSNextEvent + 657
44 com.apple.AppKit 0x91baf08e -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 128
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46 com.apple.AppKit 0x91ba80c5 -[NSApplication run] + 795
47 com.apple.AppKit 0x91b7530a NSApplicationMain + 574
48 com.apple.Safari 0x000b9906 0x1000 + 755974

Thread 1:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x96570bce __semwait_signal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9659b8cd pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 73
2 com.apple.WebCore 0x92cd611f WebCore::IconDatabase::syncThreadMainLoop() + 239
3 com.apple.WebCore 0x92c8e885 WebCore::IconDatabase::iconDatabaseSyncThread() + 181
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9659ac55 _pthread_start + 321
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9659ab12 thread_start + 34

Thread 2:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x965699e6 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x965711dc mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x944f90de CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1806
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x944f9d18 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
4 com.apple.CFNetwork 0x95f526cc CFURLCacheWorkerThread(void*) + 396
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9659ac55 _pthread_start + 321
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9659ab12 thread_start + 34

Thread 3:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x965699e6 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x965711dc mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x944f90de CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1806
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x944f9d18 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
4 com.apple.Foundation 0x9514bac0 +[NSURLConnection(NSURLConnectionReallyInternal) _resourceLoadLoop:] + 320
5 com.apple.Foundation 0x950e85ad -[NSThread main] + 45
6 com.apple.Foundation 0x950e8154 NSThread__main + 308
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9659ac55 _pthread_start + 321
8 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9659ab12 thread_start + 34

Thread 4:
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1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9659ac55 _pthread_start + 321
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9659ab12 thread_start + 34

Thread 5:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x965699e6 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x965711dc mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x944f90de CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1806
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x944f9d18 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
4 com.apple.CFNetwork 0x95f9fdb9 _KeychainThread + 230
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9659ac55 _pthread_start + 321
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9659ab12 thread_start + 34

Thread 6:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x96569a46 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9659bdaf _pthread_cond_wait + 1244
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9659d633 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47
3 com.apple.Foundation 0x9512e4fc -[NSCondition waitUntilDate:] + 236
4 com.apple.Foundation 0x9512e310 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:beforeDate:] + 144
5 com.apple.Foundation 0x9512e275 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:] + 69
6 com.apple.AppKit 0x91c157f0 -[NSUIHeartBeat _heartBeatThread:] + 753
7 com.apple.Foundation 0x950e85ad -[NSThread main] + 45
8 com.apple.Foundation 0x950e8154 NSThread__main + 308
9 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9659ac55 _pthread_start + 321
10 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9659ab12 thread_start + 34

Thread 7:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x965d35c6 __workq_ops + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x965d35f6 start_wqthread + 30

Thread 8:

Thread 9:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x965699e6 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x965711dc mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x944f90de CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1806
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x944f9d18 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x96dfb464 HALRunLoop::OwnThread(void*) + 160
5 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x96dfb300 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 96
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9659ac55 _pthread_start + 321
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9659ab12 thread_start + 34

Thread 10:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x96570bce __semwait_signal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9659b8cd pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 73
2 com.apple.ColorSync 0x91ad6460 pthreadSemaphoreWait(t_pthreadSemaphore*) + 42
3 com.apple.ColorSync 0x91ae8d92 CMMConvTask(void*) + 54
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9659ac55 _pthread_start + 321
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9659ab12 thread_start + 34

Thread 11:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x965699e6 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x965711dc mach_msg + 72
2 …romedia.Flash Player.plugin 0x16bc8341 memcopy_mmx + 709497
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9659ac55 _pthread_start + 321
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9659ab12 thread_start + 34

Thread 12:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x96569a2e semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9659bdc6 _pthread_cond_wait + 1267
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x965e18bb pthread_cond_wait + 48
3 …romedia.Flash Player.plugin 0x16a8f572 0x16700000 + 3732850
4 …romedia.Flash Player.plugin 0x16ac6e68 Flash_EnforceLocalSecurity + 124992
5 …romedia.Flash Player.plugin 0x16a8f81c 0x16700000 + 3733532
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9659ac55 _pthread_start + 321
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9659ab12 thread_start + 34

Thread 13:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x96569a2e semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9659bdc6 _pthread_cond_wait + 1267
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x965e18bb pthread_cond_wait + 48
3 …romedia.Flash Player.plugin 0x16a8f572 0x16700000 + 3732850
4 …romedia.Flash Player.plugin 0x16ac6e68 Flash_EnforceLocalSecurity + 124992
5 …romedia.Flash Player.plugin 0x16a8f81c 0x16700000 + 3733532
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9659ac55 _pthread_start + 321
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9659ab12 thread_start + 34

Thread 14:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x965699e6 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x965711dc mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x944f90de CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1806
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x944f9d18 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
4 com.apple.Foundation 0x9511cb15 -[NSRunLoop(NSRunLoop) runMode:beforeDate:] + 213
5 com.apple.Foundation 0x95128c34 -[NSRunLoop(NSRunLoop) run] + 84
6 com.apple.Safari 0x0005beb0 0x1000 + 372400
7 com.apple.Foundation 0x950e85ad -[NSThread main] + 45
8 com.apple.Foundation 0x950e8154 NSThread__main + 308
9 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9659ac55 _pthread_start + 321
10 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9659ab12 thread_start + 34

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x17048b94 ebx: 0x1694fa94 ecx: 0x00000300 edx: 0xfffff6a1
edi: 0x177d0000 esi: 0x7d045010 ebp: 0xbfffdfe8 esp: 0xbfffdfb0
ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010202 eip: 0x16b9cf06 cs: 0x00000017
ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037
cr2: 0x7d045010

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0xbab00000 - 0xbab21fe2 libKoreanConverter.dylib ??? (???) <51586b8d9ef39123fbe6918f12d8285f> /System/Library/CoreServices/Encodings/libKoreanConverter.dylib
0xfffe8000 - 0xfffebfff libobjc.A.dylib ??? (???) /usr/lib/libobjc.A.dylib
0xffff0000 - 0xffff1780 libSystem.B.dylib ??? (???) /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib

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Probeer het eens zonder toeters en bellen. Dus: zonder Inquisitor en Piclens.

dat is ook een probleem, ik weet niet hoe je die kunt verwijderen :|

Als het goed is, komen die plugins met een uninstaller. En zo niet: ik gok dat ze in de map Bibliotheek->Internet Plug-Ins (of InputManagers) zitten. (Niet de bieb in je thuismap, maar die op rootniveau van je harde schijf.)

bedankt, ze zaten in inputmanagers, ik heb ze daar verwijderd.

[quote:e95446bb0c="carpebios"][quote:e95446bb0c="1984"][quote:e95446bb0c="W0utR"][quote:e95446bb0c="CedricH"]Kan zijn door de grote hoeveelheid aan Flash toestanden op die websites. Flash werkt nog steeds niet zo goed in Safari vind ik. Heb je hetzelfde probleem in Firefox?[/quote:e95446bb0c]

in firefox werken ze goed, maar ik gebruik altijd safari.[/quote:e95446bb0c]
Gewoon firefox gebruiken, voor veel dingen is FF beter (voorheen kon je uitzendinggemist alleen via FF bekijken en zo meer)[/quote:e95446bb0c]

Ow god, een FF-Evangelist.

@Ts, ligt het probleem nu bij flash of gebeurt het ook bij andere websites.
Met geheugen zou ik ook de symptoom verwachten: alle applicaties crashen. Maar het zou het wel kunnen zijn.[/quote:e95446bb0c]

Bij mijjn klapt Safari er ook regelmatig uit bij bijvoorbeeld dumpert.nl, flash dus

Sorry, wil geen nieuw topic maken, maar weet iemand een shortcut om in Safari van tab te wisselen? In Windows kan het met Firefox via ctrl + tab dacht ik...

:apple: en dat golfje links onderin toetsenbord. (zit nu 8ter windows pc, dus weet het niet zeker)